As I noted in a post some months back, I haven't made any final decisions about this project, but I am leaning heavily towards squad or platoon type games for playing out patrols, raids, trench assaults, and recon missions due to the domination of insane frontal assaults with poor artillery/infantry coordination by Italians against well protected fortified Austrian positions. It doesn't exactly scream thrilling war game.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_Front_(World_War_I)#/media/File:Italian_Front_1915-1917.jpg |
The former option is obviously less expensive as I would only need two collections to function in both the role of the attacker and the defender, whereas the latter option requires standard infantry and assault infantry for both, if I want to play scenarios featuring either side as the attacker.
http://www.metropostcard.com/war7a-j.html |
At least, that's how I am thinking of it now. There is still a small temptation to field large numbers of figures- perhaps even later war, when England and Germany were present as well
In any case, I thought for the benefit of others who might wish to game this era and theater, I would share links to what I know exists and is currently readily available at the time of this writing for the Italians and the Austrians.
Plastic
1/72
There are couple of offerings in this scale, including support weapons and artillery - you can find them on PlasticSoldierReview.com which I've linked below.
- Italian - Sadly, there are no arditi yet available, but there are some nice alpini.
- Austrian - the link is to the Austrian section, but most of them are caps, not helmets, so primarily early war. Germans might make good substitutes or at least head swaps. No specific Austrian sturmtruppen sets. German sturmtruppen would work well enough for these.
Italeri and ICM both offer multi-figure kits in 1/35, but options are pretty limited, and pricey.
- Italian (Italeri)
- Italian (ICM)
- Austrian (Italeri)
- Austrian (ICM)
- Austrian MG (ICM) I couldn't find a link to the manufacturer's site for this.
1/32
The options in this nearly perfect scale are very limited as well.
You might be able to use some of the WW1 French AiP as the basis for helmeted Italian conversions. With the exception of those in great coats (the only pictures I can find of Italian troops in coats are officers and they look nothing like the French coat), I think a few of them would be passable with just a paint conversion, but I'm pretty lose with my historical requirements.
EDIT: It looks like someone at AiP agrees with me: World War 1 - 1915-1918 - Italian Army - Balkin Front
For Austrians in caps, I have often thought Airfix or Deetail Afrika Corps figures could be pressed into service with some conversion work. For helmets, AiP figures again, this time Germans in stahlhelms, EDIT: and again:(World War I - Austrian Sturbattalion Assault Troops 1916-1918) could be converted into later war Austrians.
- Waterloo 1815 Italian infantry - the only offering I could in this scale. These figures are identical to some of their 1/72 figures, but larger, obviously.
Metal
Even in metal, no one covers every contingency. However there are a lot more scale options.
Scale | Manufacturer | Nationality | Notes |
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6mm | Baccus | Italian | Line infantry, bersaglieri, pioneers, cavalry, MG (line and bersaglieri), and artillery pieces |
6mm | Baccus | Austrian | Line infantry with caps, MG, artillery, cavalry |
6mm | Irregular Miniatures | Italian | Arditi, alpini, and bersaglieri, the latter having an mg option as well, and an artillery piece |
6mm | Irregular Miniatures | Austrian | Quite a bit more variety, including caps and helmeted infantry, cavalry, artillery, mg, and command |
10mm | Pendraken | Austrian | Several sets, including vehicles and support weapons |
10mm | Pendraken | Italian | Several sets including support weapons |
15mm | Eureka | Austrian | Caps, mg. |
15mm | Eureka | Italian | Caps, alpini, mg, artillery crew |
15mm | Irregular Miniatures | Austrian | Nice variety although no stormtroopers. |
15mm | Irregular Miniatures | Italian | Use the same link as Austrian. There's no direct link. Some variety including arditi. |
20mm | Irregular Miniatures | Austrian | Early war. |
25mm | Old Glory 25s | Italian | Infantry in both caps and helmets, alpini, bersaglieri and mgs |
25mm | Old Glory 25s | Austrian | One infantry and one mg set. |
25mm | Battle Honor 25s | Austrian | Al in caps, infantry and cavalry, as well as mg and field gun |
28mm | Brigade Games | Austrian | All in caps, mg, trench mortar, mountain gun |
28mm | Brigade Games | Italian | Infantry in caps, alpini, pioneers, arditi, trench mortar, mountain gun |
28mm | Scarab Miniatures | Austrian | Mixed caps and helmets in same set, sturmtruppen, support weapons |
28mm | Scarab Miniatures | Italian | Infantry in helmets, arditi, support weapons, trucks |
54mm | Irregular Miniatures | Austrian | Early war Austrian officer and infantry in caps and a useful gun model |
54mm | Irregular Miniatures | Italian | French infantry - provided not in great coat - could work and a useful gun model |
54mm | Irregular Miniatures | Austrian/Italian | This is a link to the Irregular Empire-multi part figures which you can piece together to form either Italian or Austrian, early or late war, as desired. |
Trench Hammer has you covered for rules at this scale :)
ReplyDeleteI have Trench Hammer and I'm pretty sure I picked it up based on your posts!
DeleteIF you can find them there are also the old Dulcop 54mm Italian Alpini toy soldiers. pic
ReplyDeleteThose are lovely figures. And of course I ran to ebay right away but to no avail. I'll definitely keep an eye out for them.
DeletePrice of a Mile plays very well for small squad skirmishes.
ReplyDeleteHi Reese, are you referring to the Nordic Weasel rules by that name? I hadn't heard of them before but I do see them included in a Pay What You Want bundle on Wargame Vault.
DeleteIt really is the best scale! I hadn't considered using Japanese but now you've got me thinking about it (except my conversion skills are pretty terrible).
ReplyDeleteAnd another thing. It has previously occurred to me to try adapting the BMC ACW figures as Austrians. I think my standards are low enough to get away with such audacity!
ReplyDeleteI had to go and search out some BMC ACW online. I think there are indeed a few poses that could pass with minimal work (maybe more than a paint job, but not a ton of modification to the kit either). I'm not sure I have the guts to try it but I have no doubt you could pull it off!
ReplyDeleteDo you know if the Irregular 15mm WW1 Austrians and Italians are in Helmets or Caps ? Cheers ...
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